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Internship Newsletter: October 2005

Senior Interviews

“I’m surprised at how much I know about heating and cooling systems.”

“Two boys called me ‘cool’, and I’ve never been called ‘cool’ in my life.”

“Thank goodness it depends more on your heart than your head.”

“Holy buckets, I think I can do this!”

“I was so worried about getting the theology right, but I got there and found out that relationships came first.”

Those were some of the comments made by seniors reflecting on their internship experiences as they met with CLI staff in Berkeley and St. Paul after returning to campus. While a few reported difficulties along the way and all recognized that internship had its ups and downs, the overwhelming majority found internship to be a positive experience of growth in which they not only grew in competence and understanding of the pastoral role and the work actually done by parish pastors, but also clarified their own sense of call.

Major insights/learnings/discoveries included:

  • The supreme importance of relationships.
  • An appreciation for the diversity of Lutheranism across the ELCA. Some interns found themselves in settings in which the character of church life was very different from what they had experienced previously and learned to respect and love this “different” face of Lutheranism.
  • Profound respect for the piety, the love and concern of God’s people.
  • Surprise as how well received they were and the willingness of people to welcome interns into their congregations and their lives.
  • Clarity about internship as a process of ministry formation.
  • Realization of the community dimension of the pastor’s life, serving community as much as congregation.
  • The delightful discovery that they really enjoyed what they were doing.

Very few returning interns reported major problems with their experiences. Where there were difficulties, three issues emerged most often:

  1. Lack of weekly supervisory conferences.
  2. Lay Internship Committees unsure of their task.
  3. Inappropriately high expectations.

Certainly PLTS and LS will be energized this year by these enthusiastic pastors to be, and the church will be blessed by them when their theological education is completed.

Boundaries as Pastoral Care  
by Jean Larson

All the church talk about boundaries in pastoral ministry might suggest that we should all wrap ourselves up in yellow police tape: CAUTION! DO NOT CROSS! I’ve heard some young pastors say that they will never hug any parishioner, nor will they ever take a stranded youth home from a retreat, and they go out into ministry on the legal and ethical defensive. Is this necessary? Furthermore, “boundary” talk at first glance goes against the theological grain. Keeping oneself safe, erecting walls, making clean distinctions, sounds more like the Holiness Code than the gospel of Jesus. So what’s an intern to do?

Understand boundaries as an expression of care for self and parishioner alike.

Perhaps you already do. It may be that pastors like me, in it for a couple decades, need to learn this more than interns do. Ours was the generation that learned to share the peace of Christ with happy abandon, who rejoiced in the loosening of formality in the pastoral office. When I was in seminary, I was part of a group that called itself the “Harmony Haven Huggers.” You get the picture.

The problem (often) is not in sharing affection or care, but in naiveté which can open the door to confusion, mixed messages, and hurtful emotional or sexual trespass. (As I write this it occurs to me that my analysis is gendered. I write as a woman out of my own experience. Do men analyze this differently? There may be a good conversation in here.)

We all know the worst-case scenarios--egregious sexual manipulation, even rape, by pastors or interns against vulnerable parishioners. The church has paid a huge price, financially and spiritually. And the victims have paid a greater one. Don’t even go there. If you’re concerned about your own ability or desire to set firm sexual or emotional boundaries, get the best therapist you can afford and find out what’s moving you. Give yourself a chance to get healthy and thrive in ministry.

Most of us are not sociopaths, thanks be to God, but we are not immune to being attracted to parishioners. In fact, it’s safer to assume that we will be attracted to parishioners, and parishioners will be attracted to us for a whole variety of reasons, some having nothing to do with the power of our preaching. So care with personal boundaries remains essential, for everyone’s well-being. Understanding ourselves as human beings who quite regularly mistake our needs, misread others’ signals, need affection, deny responsibility, overwork, and are subject to ego and sexual drives is a good place to start. Understand others in the same framework, and be mindful that the often hidden sufferings of parishioners--as victims of sexual abuse, rape or other violence, addictions, or mental illness--can seriously damage their ability to set up healthy boundaries and can even set them up to cross them. It is always up to the intern or pastor to set appropriate boundaries.

Practice Self Care and Family Care.

It’s the burning-out, give-till-there’s-not-much-left pastor who puts herself in jeopardy. Take your days off. Get away. Remember that God cares about a lot more than religion/church/your evaluations. Guidelines for interns are that they work 45-50 hours per week. If your supervisor has other ideas, talk about it. Healthy boundaries don’t start with a no-hugging pledge. They start with a healthy use of time, enjoying Sabbath, and a life outside the church. In some contexts like rural isolation this is a challenge! But a worthy one.

Err on the side of being circumspect.

Circumspect is a great word here. It carries the sense of looking around, taking everything into account. One lovely little thing to take into account is a CPE mantra: whose needs am I meeting here?

And modesty is fine. Consider it a counter-cultural practice. It is possible to communicate warmth with a two-handed passing of the peace, an arm around the shoulder, an A-frame hug. This sounds dorky. But I think it is wise. Full-frontal hugs can miscommunicate. It’s much easier to start out with firmer boundaries than to try to establish them later. You might safely let parishioners set the tone, being respectful of their comfort zone, but with those who have too much twinkle in their eye and no sense of distance, you have to set the boundary. Sometimes this takes quite a bit of work and persistence. Strategically placed LBW’s and lovely leather notebooks can run interference rather well. So do words. I am uncomfortable when you put your arm around me, Mr. Jensen.

It is always the intern’s or pastor’s job to set the boundaries. Professional counselors advise never doing one-on-one counseling in an empty building. No staff around? Use a quiet café. These are difficult issues requiring a balance between protecting the privacy and confidentiality of pastoral counsel with protecting the safety of the relationship. It never hurts to ask what the parishioner is comfortable with. (Would you prefer that the door be kept open or closed? And to the stranded confirmation kid: Is it OK with you and your parents if I give you a ride home? You might call the parents first.) It is always important to keep tabs on what you are comfortable with as well. Trust your gut.

Finally, go to your synod’s boundary workshop.

Many synods require such a workshop. All do them. It would be good learning for intern and supervisor to go together. The point of all this is the well-being of the people of God. And that includes you.

Those Weekly Supervisory Meetings  
by Alicia Vargas

“A time for everything…,” we read in Ecclesiastes. In the midst of the week’s responsibilities, varied and abundant as they are, intern and supervising pastor take at least an hour to:

  1. Turn off the phone and the office traffic, and sit with each other (well, maybe go to a coffee shop) and talk
  2. Pray together
  3. Review all aspects of public ministry encountered anytime during the preceding week, from the point of view of the Call (in coffee hour, before worship in the parking lot, in the nursing home or in the hospital or in the local jail, or in the committee meeting the previous evening)
  4. Wonder about the possibilities of the relationships with those whom the intern is getting to know in the congregation, in the community (so many lives, so little time!)
  5. Have fun and seriousness with feedback and input on last Sunday’s sermon and the liturgy (general demeanor, content, comfort factor, and much more)
  6. Reflect on the theology of the prayers offered at the altar (Did they convey the intern’s intended theology? What was that intended theology? How was the week's news—home and congregation, local and world’s—covered?)
  7. Read short articles or chapters (or one of Luther’s letters, or a meditation, or the ELCA social statement most pertinent to this moment in the congregational life, or some good old Scripture, or a favorite from Seminary—remember Seminary?)
  8. Count the blessings of the preceding week
  9. Leave all the planning for the coming week for another time!
  10. Listen to Ecclesiastes again: There is a time for everything!

May your supervisory hour be one of the blessings of your week.

The Vital Lay Internship Committee  
by Laure Schwartz

By now there should be an active internship committee in place made up of lay leaders in the congregation. You might be wondering what your role is and who exactly leads this committee. We suggest that a chair person be selected and that he or she works with the intern on setting an agenda for the monthly meetings. The chair person would then lead the meetings.

The Intern Committee has a unique perspective for the student to hear. You can tell the intern about life in your community as you experience it, and some of the challenges you face. You can regularly reflect with the intern on his or her ministry skills and pastoral identity. Share your story of faith and your style of ministry. Take time to ask the intern what she/he needs from the members of the committee. Similarly the committee can help the intern learn what the expectations of the congregation are.

Some suggestions for your meetings in months two and three:

  • Check on the intern’s housing and personal needs, including the spouse’s or children’s needs
  • Discuss the transition from seminary to church and this new community
  • Review and formalize with the intern the Learning Service Agreement
  • Develop a process for evaluating the intern’s preaching and assisting in worship

Informally, any member of the internship committee should feel free to invite the intern and family over for dinner. Conversation around a meal is a great way to welcome new people to your community.

What should Lay Committees be talking about each month? You can find out by exploring the Lay Intern Committee Handbook, online. But we'll also be tipping you each month to some ideas here in this newsletter.

Meet Margy  

Margy Schmitt Ajer is an incredibly busy person, juggling three different professional ministry vocations with marriage and family.  She flies 100,000 miles a year (“I never have trouble flying anywhere except the Twin Cities,” she says), but when Margy is with you, she is with you. You have 100% of her attention.

Margy (the “g” is hard, as in “gumption”) is the deployed faculty person for the Contextual Leadership Initiative serving interns, supervisors and congregations in Region 2.  She is also a deployed staff person for the ELCA Division for Ministry as the coordinator for Region 2. Margy is a diaconal minister living in San Diego with her husband Rich, an ELCA parish pastor. Their son Andrew is a high school sophomore. Daughters Katy and Becca are away at college.

“My journey in ministry has been rich and varied," says Margy. I have served 4 parishes doing youth ministry, educational ministry and community outreach. I have also worked in a coalition ministry with older adults, and as a nursing home chaplain. God continues to surprise me with new adventures every time I think I’ve got it all figured out.”

Editor's Column: On Monkey Collecting 
by Steve McKinley

I’ve been thinking about monkeys.

So imagine yourself owning, say, two monkeys. Two monkeys who travel around with you all the time. They are your monkeys. Taking care of monkeys requires serious hard work and a lot of energy.

Every day you meet other people who are carrying monkeys around. Some of those other people will try to give you one of their monkeys, lamenting that taking care of the monkey is more than they can do. As a compassionate person, a Christian, an intern, a pastor, your heart will go out to this person and you will be tempted to take the monkey off their hands and make it your own. As a matter of fact, as a compassionate person, a Christian, an intern, a pastor, there will be times when you won’t even need to be asked. You will see somebody wrestling with a monkey and step forward and volunteer to adopt their monkey.

Difficulty is you wind up with an impossible menagerie of monkeys. You’re running yourself ragged from morning to night taking care of all these monkeys you have made your own. You are harassed, overwhelmed, depressed—and still adding more monkeys to your collection.

You’d be better off remembering whose monkey is whose. You can help somebody else take care of a monkey, but it’s a flat out bad idea to adopt the monkey as your own, whether somebody is trying to give you the monkey or you are volunteering to adopt that monkey even when nobody asked you to do so. This is my insight into monkey keeping.

It is also my insight into ministry. Simply remove the word “monkey” from the foregoing and replace it with “problems.” All of us, including interns and supervisors, have problems of our own. When we start making the problems of other people our problems, we soon have a plate that is more than full and wind up harassed, overwhelmed, depressed and all that. Can you spell “burnout”? We will certainly put significant energy into helping other people deal with their problems/monkeys, but nonetheless we need to remember who owns the problem/monkey and not take the poor thing away from its rightful owner.

To be blunt, beginners in ministry are sometimes so eager to do a sensational and responsible job that they grab all kinds of monkeys that aren’t really theirs. Those who endure and prosper in ministry over the long haul have learned to leave monkeys to their rightful owners.

The point of the story: remember whose monkey is whose!

(By the way: I confess this is not a fresh and original idea. I picked it up from Kenneth Blanchard’s 1991 book, The One Minute Manager Meets the Monkey, which I commend to you. While Blanchard was writing about management, the idea seemed to easily slip over into ministry.)

ELCA Three-Month Progress Report 

The ELCA has asked for additional points of reporting the intern’s progress throughout the internship year. The first is coming up for you. Two three-month reports are due, one from the supervisor and one from the intern. The form will be available as of October 1st. Please access this form and the directions from this web page: http://www.luthersem.edu/contextual_learning/internship/intern_forms.asp.

Remember these are required ELCA forms that you need to submit directly to your candidacy committee and to your seminary’s Contextual Leadership Initiative Office.

News From Campus  

PLTS: 61 new students on campus this year, spread between M.Div., Lutheran year, TEEM and other degree programs….Good response to a Community Spirituality Retreat on campus, led by Prof. Sandra Pryds….Luther Lecture coming up October 19....Student Association officers for this year: President: Katy Grindberg; Vice-president: Kara Benson; Secretary: Chris Ode; Treasurer: Shane Freiberg; Academic Committee: Josh Elliot-McGuffie; Social Justice: Justin Baxter; Liaison: Lynn Hofstad; Community Life: Melissa Reed

Luther: Professor Matt Skinner will be ordained to the ministry of word and sacrament in the Presbyterian Church (USA) on Sunday October 16 by the Presbytery of the Twin Cities Area. The ordination service begins at 3:00 PM, in Luther Seminary's Chapel of the Incarnation....Tony Campolo was in town this week to talk about touch issues facing Christians today. His visit included a stop and a lecture in the Chapel of the Incarnation.

Internship Cluster Events  

Interns and supervisors will participate in cluster events throughout the internship year. Generally, your opportunities are once in the fall and once in the spring. The cluster is a chance for reconnecting with your colleagues and discussing ministry realities both challenging and celebrative. Please make every effort to attend your cluster event.

Cluster

Date

Location

CLI Convener

Metro South Cluster October 6 Oak Grove Lutheran, Richfield MN Steve McKinley
Metro East Cluster October 11 Christ Lutheran, Marine on St. Croix MN Laure Schwartz
Southern Minnesota October 11 Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter MN Steve McKinley
Northern California Oct 20-21 Christ the King Retreat Ctr., Sacramento Margy Schmitt Ajer
Montana Cluster Oct 24-25 Ursuline Retreat Center, Great Falls MT Jean Larson
Metro North Cluster October 27 Oak Knoll Lutheran, Minnetonka MN Laure Schwartz
Southern CA/Hawaii Oct 27-28 Luther Glen, Yucaipa, CA Margy Schmitt Ajer
Dakotas Cluster Oct 27-28 Camp of the Cross, Garrison ND Steve McKinley
Oregon Cluster Nov 3-4 Menucha Retreat Center, Portland OR Jean Larson
Northern Minnesota Nov 3-4 Camp Knutson, Crosslake MN Laure Schwartz
Arizona/Nevada Nov 7-8 Spirit in the Desert, Carefree, AZ Margy Schmitt Ajer
Colorado Nov 30 Rocky Mt. Synod office, Denver Margy Schmitt Ajer

If your internship site is located in the geographical areas listed above, you should have already received an invitation to the cluster event from the CLI staff person convening the event. Internship sites located in areas that are served by other seminaries should have received an invitation to a cluster event in your area from that particular seminary. If the date for your cluster doesn’t work for you, please consider attending a cluster event that may work into your schedule better and is still located near you. Please notify the Contextual Leadership Initiative staff leading the cluster of your desire to attend a different cluster. Also RSVP to the CLI staff person leading the cluster you can attend.